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liz - Jul 3rd, 2006 10:32 AM
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Hi

I just started the 2ww on Sat. after a cycle of Repronex. I was wonderful if anyone out there is also in the wait?!

Baby dust to everyone.
Liz


tracylee - Jul 6th, 2006 9:52 AM

Hey Liz, I am in the 2ww as well! :) 4 DPO today. I go to the doctor's tomorrow for my CD22 blood work. Hoping for better news then I received last month! Hoping this is my month, as is [b][/b]! How are you doing?

Tracy
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tracylee - Jul 6th, 2006 9:54 AM

Hoping this is my month, as is [b][/b]!

That is supposed to say "Hoping this is my month, as is EVERYONE!" Not sure what happened when I tried to BOLD!

Tracy


liz - Jul 6th, 2006 3:43 PM

Hi Tracy

Great to hear from you. I was thinking about my "cycle" buddy, hoping all was well.

As for me, I am ok. Trying very hard to stay positive. Yesterday I had bw which showed my estodiol level is at 102, they want greater than 100. So I am right on the edge. They had me do a "booster" shot of hcg last night to give me overies a kick! I am nervous. My progersterone was great at 17.6. I also go tomorrow for bw again.

How are you feeling?

Good luck tomorrow and let me know how you make out.

Liz


tracylee - Jul 7th, 2006 9:25 AM

Good morning Liz! Best wishes to you today! :)

I am hoping for higher progesterone levels than last month, that is for sure. I am trying to be optimistic, but then again, I don't want to be disappointed, so I am trying to prepare either way. I'm not sure how long it will take for them to let me know the results. I have an appointment with a fertility specialist on July 13, so I can continue working on this! I am hoping that I won't need that appointment, but then again, I also know that they may be able to offer me what my obgyn cannot! So, we'll see!

Hope your bw goes well, have a great day!

Tracy


liz - Jul 7th, 2006 1:40 PM

Hello Tracy, How are you doing today?

I had my bw done this morning, just got the results. They are both great. Estrodiol went up to 135 and the Progersterone up to 28.6. The booster shot seemed to work. I have to do it again tomorrow to keep the levels up.

Did you get your results back yet? I am keeping my fingers crossed you have good news.

Making the step to see a fertility specialists is a huge step, I am sure you will be very pleased. Except for the fact you (like we all do) wish you would be able to cancel because you got your bfp this month. Actually the 13th the would be before you are due for a beta test right? After my m/c my gyn (after running alot of tests since it was my 3rd m/c) sent me over to ther fertility department. It worked out great for me, one day I was in one room for gyn and the next in another room for fertility. I am happy with my doc. He comes with a very good reputation and the nurses are wonderful.

Hope you are having a good day. Talk to you soon.
Liz



tracylee - Jul 7th, 2006 3:55 PM

Liz -

Sounds like you received some great news today! I am excited for you!

I did not get my results today, not until Monday. Oh well...I did pick up the copies of my bloodwork to bring with me to the specialist. They are confusing, but part of the problem is that the levels are supposed to be taken on CD 3 and I don't think mine were taken on CD 23! SO at first I was thinking, great, it will never happen, then I think maybe the specialist will say disregard all that! Who knows!

I am thrilled for you, though! Hoping you have a great weekend! When do you go back for bw?

Tracy


liz - Jul 8th, 2006 1:31 PM

Hello Tracy, How are you doing today?

What blood tests did you have drawn that you got results back for? I think that, but don't quote me the only test that must be done on cd 3 is FSH. I have had sooooooooooooo many blood tests it is not even funny. Fortunatly for me they all came back normal, except of course my low estrodiol level. I know it is hard but try not to get to worked up ove the blood work. I know I always received copies of my bw and I would be like "oh no that is high, now what, its never going to happen for me." Then I would go to the re and they would tell me I am just fine. They are the ones that went to school for this stuff right? My dh always tells me I read to much and sometimes that makes me think I know exactly what is going on and of course that is not correct at all.

How are you feeling otherwise, anything different? I am crampy, but who knows it could all be from the Progersterone suppositories I have to take at bed and in the am.

I do not go for my beta test until Monday 7/17. I was originally scheduled for 7/14, however since I am doing the booster of hcg again they want to wait and to make sure I don't get a "false postive". Thats fine with me anyway we are going camping with my family next weekend and I would have hated to get bad news before the trip. That sounds negative, I should not say that, I am hoping and praying it is a bfp for both of us.

Hope you are having a great weekend, talk to you soon.

Liz


tracylee - Jul 9th, 2006 9:52 AM

Liz,
The blood tests which I received copies of were my FSH, LH, Prolactin, Progesteron, etc. All taken on Day 23. And my FSH and LH levels are what he has used to diagnose me as PCOS. I don't know. I walked out of the office VERY disappointed, but then after doing research, I decided that the results were probably not real reliable. So, may be wishful thinking on my part, but I will wait and be evaluated by the RE, before putting any value of the test results.

Otherwise I am feeling well. Gassy and sore BBs, but it happens when I am on Clomid, so I have learned not to read much into that! I have no scheduled day for my pregnancy test, OBGYN just stated to call back if I didn't get AF. I am sure the RE will run one when I am there on Thursday.

Camping sounds fun, haven't done that in years! I'm sure it will be a nice distraction for you!

Hope you are enjoying the weekend as well, I'm going to get out and try and get some sun today!

Tracy


liz - Jul 10th, 2006 8:43 AM

Good morning Tracy
How was your weekend? I live in Pa and we had beautiful weather. Less humid then it has been which makes me very happy. :)

Try not to worry to much about your bw results from cd 23. I know it is much easier said then done (I should take my own advice). When you go to see the re this week he/she will be able to shed more light on the situation. When I went from gyn to the re it made a world of difference. That is what they do and have so many answers to your questions. I always ask a ton of questions and when they give me the answers I come home and research them on the internet and books. I guess I am alittle compulsive. :)

When I was on the Clomid I had so many side effects and it was very difficult to tell what was medicine induced. I always look for anything that could possibly give me some hope of a BFP. I think we are all like that, our desires to be a mommy makes us crazy, or atleast it sure makes me crazy. ha

I will be thinking about you today, hoping that you get some good news with your bw results. Let me know how you make out.

Take care,
Liz


tracylee - Jul 10th, 2006 9:01 PM

Liz,

My doctor's office did not get back the results, last I heard. I called this afternoon, but they weren't in yet. Oh well, tomorrow, I guess!

How are you feeling, besides nervous and anxious???

Tracy


liz - Jul 11th, 2006 7:54 AM

Hi Tracy,

Sorry to hear you didn't get your results back yet. :( i knwo the wait is a killer. Hopefully today.

How are you feeling? Anything different? Only a couple more days till the re. I bet you have both excitement and nervous feelings. Atleast that is how it was for me. I was so excited to be able to get some answers and a plan, but I was so nervous they would tell me something I didn't want to hear.

I am not feeling so good this morning. Alittle sick on the stomach. Probably just a side effect of the progesterone suppositories, who knows. All I know is I feel crappy.

I will be thinking about you today, let me know how things are going.

Talk to you soon
Liz


tracylee - Jul 11th, 2006 3:26 PM

Okay, they FINALLY called. My level on Friday, which was 5DPO was 23.4. So I actually ovulated! I am thrilled....getting my hopes up I am sure, but still happy just to actually know that I O'd!

I hope you are feeling better than you were this morning! Are you?

Tracy


Shdy Grove 2 - Jul 11th, 2006 4:53 PM

I'm new to the board and have really enjoyed reading the postings. It is nice to read how everyone is progressing and to know all of us are going thru the same thing.

I started my 2nd IVF, did the transfer on 6/29 and go in for the preg test on 7/19. My first IVF attempt was successful. (we did the shared risk program ironically)We transferred three embies, 1 rating and two at three rating. I had my DD in January of 2005. What a blessing she is. Now we said we would do one try for a second child. Since we only had one 1 rated embie last time, I incorporated acupunture with the IVF and they uped my meds. I'm 34 but have a family history of early menopause. This time we transferred two 1 rated embie, the other two while making it to the blast stage were not able to be cryoed. So this is a one shot deal. UGH, the waiting is hard. Last time I would have sworn up and down I wasn't pregnant and I was. This time my BBS started feeling fuller at day 9 and I'm tired and have felt nausous a few times - but reading the progesterone labels those are common side effects. It is hard not to read into things. Part of me wants to set a A or B plan, so when I get the news either way at least I have a plan in place to look towards and get exctied about... actually its really only if I get a BFN that I need an alternate plan for. What an emotional roller coaster.

So if any of you are in the wait I would love to hear from you. I read of another woman who must have gone to Shady Grove and she had a BFP. (NEW to this I had to look up these abbreviations) It seems for every posititve there is a negative... I tell myself it is really out of our hands, what is meant to be will be....

Jen


liz - Jul 11th, 2006 6:09 PM

Hi Tracy,

Congrats! I am so happy for you and your positve progesterone results. 23.4 is great! Maybe this is a sign. I will keep my fingers crossed.

I am not feeling much different then I was this morning. Still got the crampy thing going on and spells of feeling like I am going to be sick. I don't know about this, I didn't have these side effects to this extent on the progesterone before. ???

How are you feeling?

Hi Jen,
Welcome to the board. Congrats on your daughter. IVF was a success for you! I sincerely hope you can get the same results this time around.
I test on the 17th, so we are close.
I am also on the progesterone suppositories. I was on them before and had some nasty side effects of so I thought. When I was on them before and had the side effects I was on Clomid, now this month I was on Repronex. I don't have near as many side affects so I am thinkign it was more the Clomid then the progesterone. Not sure, have cramping and twingy feelings down low on and off since day 5-6. Today 10dpo it is pretty much constant. I am also as I am sure you saw feeling like I might be sick at times. Oh, well I am trying not to get my hopes up yet.

I will talk to you soon.
Take care
Liz


tracylee - Jul 12th, 2006 9:17 AM

Good Morning Liz and Welcome Jen!

Liz - I hope you are feeling better this morning!

Jen - Best wishes to you in your efforts! We are all around the same DPO!

I am feeling okay, tired but okay. Sore bbs, but like I have said before, I KNOW this is a side effect of the Clomid! My appointment with the RE is tomorrow, so I am VERY anxious today, just want the day to fly by! I will try to keep busy!

Hope you both are feeling well today!

Tracy


liz - Jul 12th, 2006 10:18 AM

Good morning Tracy :)

1 more day! I am very excited for you, as I am sure you are for yourself. Do you have your list of questions fo them? I always go with quite a lenghty list, they know with me it won't be quick. :)

I am feeling a little better this morning. I still have the crampy/twingy feeling. I haven't felt like I was going to be sick yet today so that is a good thing I guess.

I will be thinking about you hoping your day flys by for you!

Take care,
Liz


Slatka - Jul 12th, 2006 2:01 PM

Hi Everyone --

I'm in the painful middle of the 2ww where every feeling could go either way and I end up wasting too much time looking up symptoms online (that, by the way, I've already looked up a thousand times before!); it's become some sort of coping mechanism. I know I can't "will" my way to pregnancy; I think all of us would've done that long ago!

Actually, I have a question for Jen (welcome, by the way): have you been working with Shady Grove Fertility in Maryland? I live in Washington, DC and have had troulbe conceiving; we finally did in Feb of this year, only to have a m/c in March. My OB/GYN wants me to wait until 6 months of ttc have passed before she refers me out to a fertility clinic (that will be end of August). And the center I'd go to is Shady Grove. We had testing done in Dec 2005, and my husband and I seem to have no reproductive or hormonal issues; it is just taking a loooooong time. I am 33 and want to get on with it (and find out if any more "invisible" and undetected is wrong). How do you like the center?

As always, I'm so glad to hear all your stories and have your support --
Slatka


jennifern - Jul 12th, 2006 9:21 PM

Hi there,
I was really glad to find this site....
Going through the 2WW nightmare --this is my second injectible/IUI (did 6 months clomid w/out IUI..TTC 2 yrs ).
DH (32) has 'superman' count --was over 250 mill!!!
No apparent probs with me (33) either--this is a texbook case of 'unexplained' infertility.
I have my beta on the 17th & am really trying to resist a HPK. I took one 6DPO and lost it after the BFN....
The 3 progesterone supps a day are driving me mental & my girls are huge--can't even take my bra off!
yesterday I felt cramps in what felt like my left ovary s(lasted about 2 hours)so I googled & ended up on 2weekwait.com where I read endless accounts of 2WW aches/clues
I forced myself to stop & now I am still riding the daily seesaw of 'what if' versus 'whoa is me'.
I am secretly hoping that my incredibly sad/angry mood swings /aches & cramps are not a side effect of the progesterone but deep down I think it is.....(last month was exactly the same minus the cramps)
Poor DH hasn't had any fun since IUI--how can progesterone supps be sexy???????
To top it off I just found out another close relative is pregs..
UG!!!!
So who else is beta'ing Monday??? & are you going to HPK first?
CHEERS!


liz - Jul 13th, 2006 7:48 AM

Good morning Tracy,

I wanted to wish you luck at your appointment today. I will be thinking about you.

Talk to you soon,
Liz


liz - Jul 13th, 2006 7:54 AM

Hi Jennifer and welcome to the site. Glad to see you found us. This site has become such a saving grace for me and many other.

I will be beta testing on Monday 7/17 as well.

Your dh has a count like mine, dh is 254 and now he thinks he is "super man". It really goes to their heads. haha

You sound like all of us, this 2ww is a killer. I am glad it is soon over, but on the flip side I am also nervous for the results. Getting a bfn could just knock me back down and evertime it feels harder and harder to get up again.

I too am on progesterone supp. They stink, however I must admit that I think I am getting used to them. 3 a day, wow you poor dear, I thought 2 was bad enough. Yes, our dh's definatly do suffer during this time.

I started having cramping around days 5-6 dpo and on day 10 dpo the cramps/twinges got worse. In the morning I feel sick, but just like you said it could just be the progesterone supp. side effects.

It was great to hear from you. Stay calm and good luck to you.

Talk to you soon,
Liz


tracylee - Jul 13th, 2006 1:52 PM

Okay, the appointment went okay. It turns out that because of the Clomid my ovaries are now COVERED in LARGE cysts, so this mean a month long break from meds and such. I am feeling sorry for myself, and I know it's only temporary, but....I was hoping for more positive feedback! Anyway, during my month off the will do the SPA on DH and then we will chat about options again. Doctor is pushing for IVF, but I don't think DH is ready to go there...We'll see! I won't be disappearing, that's for sure! This site has been the greatest support system for me! I am wishing you two the best with your tests on Monday! BFPS, BFPS!

Tracy


Shdy Grove 2 - Jul 13th, 2006 3:50 PM

Hi Liz and Tracy,

Thanks for your reply. I am on the progesterone shots, like I was last time. I too am feeling nausea sometimes, even a little preference or lack of decision for food - like I had when I was pregnant. (I try to not think about this) on Day 5 and 6 I noticed slight spotting, just a hint. ?? I was experiencing mild twinges 'down there', like very mild cramping too. My BB are feeling full, but then again I also haven't excercised and am feeling doughy. However this week I am feeling perfectly fine with the repoductive tract. Again, that's how I felt when I was pregnant the last time. I would have sworn up and down that I wasn't. UGH, I am trying not to read into it. I go in on the 17th for BW. (I'm sure I will get a ton of work done that day.) I am having the nurse leave a message on my cell phone so I can replay it while in private. Last time I was attending a conference in Baltimore and was talking to a group during lunch when my cell phone went off. I felt the phone vibrating knowing what was on the other line. I finally got away and went to a ladies room stall to hear it. Funny to think about now.. what we go through!

Liz I am keeping my fingers crossed for you too. I do love to see success on these boards. Did you do and IVF, IUI or something else?

Jen


Shdy Grove 2 - Jul 13th, 2006 4:22 PM

Liz,

I didn't finish reading all the postings before I replied. You are right. part of me just doesn't want to go on Monday. Hmmm?? Can I just not go? No, you know that won't happen. Its like if I don't hear the BFN, then it won't be true.

SLATKA,

Welcome. I am glad to know you are in the area. I am so sorry to hear about your m/c. Gosh, I know so many people that have had one or many and it just makes you wonder. 6 months seems like a long time. I know that working with a fertility center they may have you undergo their own testing. So having gone through this before, meeting with them earlier rather than later may be advantageous. After talking with you who knows what they may want you to do - testing could take time too. So I say meet with them and work out a plan you feel comfortable with. They may also say wait but you could get a lot done beforehand and be ready to 'strike while the iron is hot" as they say.
I would definitely recommend Shady Grove. I first went to Genetics & IVF in faifax. Without going into too much detail we left for VERY good reasons. I would not recommend. I am 34 now, diagnosed with stage III endo, blocked tubes and early menopause (so low performing ovaries). Shady seems to have a streamlined process and good followup. They always double check your name and ID info (I liked that reassurance especially with the procedures we are talking about) I went to Annadale for monitoring which was on my way to work. Many doctors have told me to go with the facility that has the best results. I did the shared risk program the first time, and as Murphy's Law would have it, our first IVF resulted in our daugther. I will tell you I never gave the amount a second thought. You really will NOT care about the money once you bring a child home. In fact you'll feel like you got the deal of the century. I worked with Dr. Stillman. All the docs and nurses are pleasant to work with you feel like you are using a state of the art facilty. I wish you all the best!!!

JENNIFERN
Welcome. I hear you. All these "signs" and symptoms and then you read the progestrone enclosure and low and behold there they are. It does help - maybe- to read, read, read online and with the postings. It's like the more information, the more prepared and educated you can feel. When it comes down to it, there is only so much that is in our control. I am trying to rely on that "x" factor and try to accept and let things fall where they be. THis is our last IVF cycle - so....

TRACYLEE

I read your last posting and I am disappointed to hear about the cysts. Having done IVF twice - and swore I would never do that - I just want to let you know it's not that bad, really. The cost is an issue, but ifs it the process you are concerned about, don't be. It just becomes part of your routine. A shot in the morning, quick pop of the vitamin and out the door. Once you do a couple of shots you will become a pro. I had to teach my friends to give me the progestrone shots at night. We were out at a bachlorette party and she gave me one in a large bathroom. Now they are taking credit for any success. Humor is a great thing to have and my DH feels a sense of accomplishment with each perfect shot he gives. Whatever you decide I wish you much happiness!!

Jen


liz - Jul 13th, 2006 4:39 PM

Hello all,

I just wanted to pop in and let you know I will be away for the weekend. I will be back Sunday evening.

Tracy -
I am sorry to hear about the cysts. You are definatly on the right track with the re. I know this dosen't help right now, but it will get better.

Have a good weekend.

My thoughts are with all of you! I will stop in Sunday, I am sure all of us testing on Monday will be a nervous wreck.

Take care,
Liz


jennifern - Jul 13th, 2006 9:21 PM

So great to hear back from all you guys....Thanks for the warm welcome!!!
It is such a comfort to have others to go through this with.
U I have felt really isolated-my dh & family are great but as you know it's not the same as being the 'guninea pig' & most of my friends are at totally different stages in their lives --either they have a few kids/ are pregs/ or are still single ladies about the town. NOBODY I know is going through/has gone through infertility.
I tried to get involved with RESOLVE & spoke to a wonderful woman there but there don't seem to be that many support groups happening .....
Liz,
I hear you about the superman complex....I love seeing his reaction after DH gets the final IUI count....he looks so satisfied. The other day he joked that maybe the problem is that there are 'too many'!
The prog. supps are THE WORST!! I am jealous that you are used to them--I wonder why I have to be on 3????
And if it is a BFP this month I am told the supps will have to continue....UG!
Your cramping sounds promising --mine went away after an hour & today I had some odd twinges all morning but I felt SO pathetic overthinking it so I tried to keep super busy. No sick feeling at all....
Shady,
Reading all the 2ww symptoms has made me feel hopeful but I'm trying not to get too wrapped up in them (who am I kidding!) I hear you about the 'x' factor

GOOD LUCK to Liz & all those testing on Monday...I am splitting town for the weekend but will check before Dday
Either we will be toasting wil club soda or I will be enjoying a nice glass of wine!!!
(I am making a massage appt for Tuesday so if it's bad news at least I will be pampering myself)
CHEERS!!
jennifer


jennifern - Jul 14th, 2006 10:10 AM

Just broke down and did a HPT (day 11)
Of course, BFN
I just want to know what it feels like to see that second line....
Beta on Monday but now I am convinced this was a no go
Sorry for the downer post!!!


jennifern - Jul 14th, 2006 10:47 AM

OK ladies,
you are going to think I am a TOTAL freak...but I just saw the test I took 30 min ago and there is the faintest second line ever--i mean REALLY faint but more than I've EVER seen before

I really need to get to work & stop the insanity but now I am convinced that this worked --30 min ago I attributed all my symptoms to craziness & the prgesterone but now I am confident that I'm pregs

I think I am certifiable!!!!!!!


tracylee - Jul 14th, 2006 12:19 PM

Jennifer - CONGRATS! I hope this is it for you! I know you go for your Beta on Monday! Hope you have a really great weekend!

And Laura, too. I know she is off for the weekend, but I am hoping she has a really great weekend as well!

Tracy


Slatka - Jul 15th, 2006 6:40 PM

Hi All --

Jen, thanks for the recommendation re: Shady Grove. I sometimes feel so at sea with all this stuff and it will be my "first time" getting involved with reproductive technologies beyond the "relax, and let it happen" school of thought.

It sounds like a whole avalanche of women are testing on Monday: it's D-Day! Or HPT-Day! I am due for af on Wednesday or so, yet I've been enjoying all the classic signs of her arrival, heavy ankles, cramping, angry, annoyed feelings. I also spotted pink today, then it went away; I'm about CD26 and I'm a 30/31 day cycle. If af is coming (and, despite all my hope, I think it is), I just want it to get the hell here and let's start over!

I will be thinking of you all in the next few days as you test. I know how damn hard it is, how devastating it can be. Whatever the outcome, you know we are all here to commiserate (we've been there) or, hopefully, celebrate!

Take care -- Slatka


Shdy Grove 2 - Jul 17th, 2006 10:48 AM

Jennifern

You are too funny. Gosh I hope that line is IT! Keep us posted when you get your beta. I like the idea of getting a massage. Hey, this is intense stuff.. we need to give our mind and body a little TLC.

Slatka

Glad we can be here for you. It isn't so bad when you look at it day to day vs. the whole process. Many times I felt gun shy, "wait, what am I doing? Do we want this? Yes. No. Yes, geez" Bottom line, I've learned the things we regret in life are usually what we didn't do. I just said what the heck. Let us know how it works out for you.

Went in this morning for the BW and am waiting for 'the call". I put my cell # so I can retrieve the message in private. Went to the beach over the weekend. A good call as kept my mind off things and focused on having fun.

Jen


liz - Jul 17th, 2006 1:48 PM

Hello everyone -

Tracy - How are you feeling? I know you had a disappointment at your appointment last week with the cycts, are you feeling any better?

I have some bad news........ Af arrived yet again yesterday. I was hoping and praying so badly this month was it. Atleast on paper I had a perfect month. Well, I guess we go another round.

Hope everyone is doing well. I am thinking of all of you who test today, wishing you the best of luck.

Liz


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