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zippy it is not uncommon to feel nothing you have to remember we always think we should feel something but most women dont even know they are pg until they are 6-8 weeks and miss a period and they dont have symptoms either

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Thank you, your're right, that's so true! I wish, however, that there were a poll or list to show what symptoms were felt by actual successful pregnancies... sort of a barometer, you know? Because I've read so many posts where people either feel crampy or sore bbs or something, and so many of them actually get a BFN, so you never know just which signs are actually felt by those whose pregnancies went to term. Oh, well. *Sigh* I guess I can wait to see in two weeks. Thanks!

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i think alot of times that its all in our heads when we go through fertility we just want it sooo bad and we start to think we feel that way and then our bodies do feel that way.

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Well! To my surprise... I was freaking (doesn't everyone??) because I absolutely didn't have any symptoms whatsoever. Nothing. Zilch. Not sore bbs, even though I'm on 2cc nightly of progesterone, estrodial every 3 days, prednisone (20mg daily), and Lovenox (80 mg daily). Oh, and I've had 4 iViG treatments. So, I'm all doped up, but have zero symptoms and zero side effects from any of the drugs. My DH thinks I'm strange :). Anyway, I am on 6 days post FET transfer (we transferred 3 highest grade frozen blasts) and I decided, since my first beta test is this Friday, that I could go ahead and test since if by Friday the HcG should be minimum of 100, then if you half that, by Wed it should be 50, and if you half that, by today it should be 25. So, I got an HPT that measures HcG levels at minimally 25, and got an immediate double line! So, at least that's one hurdle! Now let's just see if a) these remaining days go without a single symptom or feeling, and if b) I actually have good enough beta numbers on Friday.

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Well, in case this is helpful to any non-symptomers out there, I thought I'd post what happened after our 2WW was overwith: success! Well, at least this hurdled, anyway. :)

Our first beta was 258 and our second one, four days later, was 1,281... which means it's more than doubled. So, here I am, four days after the 2WW and still no symptoms!! Well, I must say that today, when I took my 5 horsepills of vitamins and folic acid and such, they didn't sit in the pit of my stomach very well. So, I could say that I had some "uneasiness" in that area. Other than that, the only other thing I can actually notice now is just the barest, tiniest fullness of my left breast. It sort of just fills out my bra more. But no pain! I'll keep posting... just because I know it might help someone else who might be desperate to know if no symptoms is not a good thing. :)

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congratulations zippy

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Ah ladies, so glad to have you all on this board! My Beta test is on Friday and I AM A ROYAL MESS!!!!!!!!!!!! I have NO symptoms except for some slight movement once in a while down there....this is my 4th IVF cycle in 1 year (July 27th was our 1 anniversary of seeing RE).
Cycle 1-cancelled, overstimulated; i'm a VERY robust responder
Cycle 2-Fresh cycle. Miscarried. But I know i was pregnant the NEXT day or 2 cos I felt slight pains, then my boobs were really sore. I have huge, sensitive bamboozas naturally, so this was strange for me. 2 tranferred fresh. 5 frozen
Cycle 3-FET. 3 transferred. Implanted but not successful.
Cycle 4-Fresh again. I wanted fresh blasts. 17 fertilized; 7 frozen on day 1; 10 taken thru to blast stage. 3 transferred; 1 frozen. NO SYMPTOMS!!!!!!!!!!!

I am freaking out. Test is on Friday and I don't know how i'm going to handle the bad news. Seriously. my cup is half empty (and I think it always is, actually). I am watching Oprah's show on surrogate parents in India, IVF videos on u-tube, visiting other fertility boards, crying, anticipating the worst

....i'm a royal mess. My husband bought me a card today that basically said:

"It was not the night, it was not the mood, the fragrance in the air...it was always you. Totally, completely you...so stop fretting about Friday (the test)"

Naturally, I cried. It was soo sweet.

I am SOOO happy to have you all on here!!!

Oh, and i have been MAJORLY horny but can't have sex or orgasm!!! Surprisingly, I've been very good at overcoming the urge!! So proud of me....positive! I'm being positive!!

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I feel for you... so badly! It's a waiting period we almost simply cannot endure, isn't it? Don't you think that you could quite easily go mad during this waiting?? Hang on! My wonderful husband took me to the movies every night, just so that 3 hours could go by without me totally pouring through the internet and driving myself crazy! Three more days!! BTW, the horniness is a symptom! I had that, too! I Googled like crazy to see if it was bad to have sex during these early fragile times, and all it says is "if your doctor says it's okay, then it's okay!" (Ours said it was, but we held off just because my husband is an over-protector.) Tomorrow it will only be two more days till you test!! You had a lot of good eggs, bless you! This could be it for you!

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Zippy,you're right.2 more days after tomorrow. I like your attitude. Maybe i'll go to movies until it's time to sleep too...

I almost bought pregnancy test today, then put it back...took it to the counter, then realized I did not want it. I would not be able to stand a negative test and i'd obsess even more....so good idea to put back.

You know what Zippy?I'm a horny girl naturally, i'm a scorpio ;o) so i can't even tell if it's a symptom or not. I just thank the Lord i don't have orgasms in my sleep as some women say they do.

As much as i say i am a mess, these are just moments of freakouts. I heard someone say "no matter how bad your situation may seem, someone is going through something much worse"

on the list today: Thank God I don't have spontaneous orgasms!!!

LOL

Toodles!

Thank you.

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Lucky for you and your husband about your libido! :)

Well, I have rather bad news... after even a THIRD blood test, where things were growing wonderfully, I started to bleed heavily (the day of the blood test), and I've been cramping badly for 2 days. All in all, the blood (and clots) were enough to fill a pad, but my RE says it's not good to cramp AND bleed (they don't mind one or the other, just not both). I haven't gone in anywhere to get checked since I'm only at 6 weeks, but I totally think this is it and this cycle is over. I'll be getting another blood test this Friday to make sure all levels are down.

Mo, please still post your good news on Friday! I'll be thinking about you!

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Zippy-I had bleed heavy at 7 weeks,but the baby was fine.If you are now 6 weeks they should be able do u/s and see what's going on.My clinic does 5 weeks u/s to make sure PG in a right spot and see how many implanted,because you might have all 3 implanted and now 1 or 2 miscarrying.At 5 weeks they able to see how many sacs and fetal pole.I'd say -get an u/s,your HCG numbers look good.It's not over until it's over,even with bleeding.

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Oh, Marina, you're so sweet to answer! I've read many of your posts in so many forums and you're such a dear to everyone and so helpful and positive. I think you've had your baby, no? And you still remain on this forum to encourage others, what an inspiration you are!

At any rate, I have read so many posts that heavy bleeds are OK, but the 2-day heavy cramping along with it is what is not good. Seems bleeding from the vagina or under the placenta or the cervix etc. don't cause cramping. It's when your uterus cramps that it wants whatever is in there OUT, from what I can gather (and believe me, I've only been on the Internet oh about 100 hours since the bleed! :)

Anyway, you didn't have any cramping at 7 weeks with your bleed, correct? Jamiee didn't when she had huge clots and enormous bleed.... *sigh*. Oh, well. Friday will tell. They won't do an U/S until Monday, however. They are mean! (Just kidding. It is a 3 hour trip for me one way, so that means I'd have to take an entire day off work and pay $100 in gas to drive there.... I can be patient till Monday.)

I'll keep everyone posted, and thank you for responses!

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Zippy,thanks for the nice words.I got PG back then in november with only one embryo( I was afraid of twins!),everything went perfect until 16 weeks,and then they did not find baby's heartbeat...So,here I'm again on my 2nd IVF after FET failed(none of my 6 exelent quality embryos did not survive freezing).If I stayed PG,I'd probably have my baby by now(the due date was August 6,but they were going to do the c-cection 2 weeks earlier)
I have my ups and downs like everybody else,but when I joined this forum,there were many girls who supported us even after their babies were born.
I don't want to give you a false hope,but I did have lower back pain and cramping with my bleeding,but my lasted for one full day and then it turned brown.When they did u/s on the next day,it was a slight placenta separation and they put me on a bed rest until the bleeding stoped.
I really hope that you'll have at least one survive!

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Oh, to go sixteen weeks and then it's gone! I'm so sorry! I have never made it past 5w6days. Did they ever say that that big bleed you had at 7 weeks affected the outsome 8 weeks later? Or did they even say what happened to your little one? (It seems like it's easier to win the lottery than to have a pregancy go to full term with no complications!)

So, you're into another cycle! That's good news! How far along are you? If this is the end for me, my next cycle will be in a couple of months or so... so I'll be back on then. But I'll definitely post my (plummeting) HcG results of this Friday before I leave.

Good luck with your current cycle, Marina!

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Yeah,I totaly agree with you-how people do get PG the old fashioned way?LOL
Well ,they did a lot of testing on me and the baby,including chromosomes and genetic-never found the reason,which makes it even more devastating-when you know your enemy,you can fight back.They even sent the tissue to Mayo clinic-no pathology.So,no we don't know what the hell happened.
I asked about that bleed in early PG,but they all were positive it did not relate,because placenta was clean,no clots.Bleeding in general is not a good sign,but it's not always means the end of PG,it could happen for different reasons.
I just had a retrieval yesterday,so the transfer will be on Sunday.I hope i'll have some good quality embies to put in.This time I'm going to put 2 since it's my last try.
Anyway,let me know,how things with you.

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Zippy good luck to you on Friday! I had beta numbers similar to yours and have twins so maybe that could be a reason. I did have some cramping but nothing to painful. I hope it all works out for you I truly know how difficult it is to have bleeding and stay sane! I had it for 14 weeks!!

jamie

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Oh, Jamielee! How wonderful to hear from you! I feel as if I know you... you've had so many posts and been through so much! You, like Marina, have been a godsend of inspiration to so many people on this forum, you should get some sort of a prize! :)

And I followed your story all the way to your birth... such hope it gives us all! If I had twin boys, all my dreams would come true. (Girls would be second choice... something about "pink" doesn't suit me.. a tomboy at heart!) But we wouldn't be picky at this point!

At any rate, I'll definitely post my HcG levels on Friday and I'm looking forward to Mo's good news that day, too. I'm not looking for any good news on Friday (gut feeling), but one never knows till the beta, right?

Talk to you all soon! Mo, Friday will be here very soon!

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Zippy, your positive perspective has really gotten me thru these last few days. Thank you! Yesterday I said "2more days" and today I said "1 more day". It was JUST what I needed to hear.

I have been going to sleep the last few days by counting my blessings....kind of like counting sheep except I count all the positives...the # eggs retrieved, the # fertilized, the blasts, the fact that we could pay for the cycles....next thing i know, i'm sleeping like a baby and i've only got 1 day to go....

naturally, i'm very nervous about tomorrow but before when i knew i would be hysterical if things were...you know....now i think i'll only be slightly hysterical (wink)

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zippy im with marina you have to think positive. I have stayed on the board to help support all the women who helped me. I have concieved 7 times though fertility, however i have lost 5. I had all second trimester miscarriages except one. My last child was born on 2/8/08 after a very long complicated pregnancy. I was bed ridden the whole time. Marina was there for me during my times of need as i was for her. After all the women here help you they make you feel like we are all family. Especialy at my age i have no friends or real family that know what i was going through then all i had was this website and all these ladiesthey all became my best friends and family. But you have to think positive. I also bleed with my last pregnancy and cramped i had a disorder called a subcortal bleed which is where a sack of old menstrual blood gets stuck in your uterus and u have to beel it out or you body will desolve it well mine did a little of both and i cramped bad.

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Oh, wow! That's horrible, Bdantonio! Well, certainly something to think about!! One more day for me to test to be sure! Meanwhile, I'll hold out a little more hope!
I'm so sorry to hear about all your losses... even in the second trimester! Wow!

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I will keep you in my prayers tonight. Also like marina said you could prossibly pg with 2 n loosing 1. So keep positive.

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Ladies, i'm shaking right now as i type this.

Beta level came back at 90!!!

Yesterday, I woke up w. 2 even sized pimples in my armpit...like in the SAME location; of each armpit, both were; then the intermittent booby pains similar to what i had w. the 1st IVF cycle...

Now we have to wait for Tuesday to see it double...

90 is not bad ha, ladies??

Zippy, I still want to thank you for reminding me...2 more days, Mo...2 more days....I really needed to hear that at time. Thank you.

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congratualtions and think positive.

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Congratulations MO!

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Mo...yey! Congrats girl! 90 is good!
when is next Beta-dod they do it on Sun or you have to wait until Mon?

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Ladies, I am watching "The Secret" tonight. It is all about the pwr of positive thinking. So bdantonio, yes, i'm staying positive.

The RE said the range is 80-100. We are SMACK in the middle!

My next test is actually on Tuesday!

My husband left me a trail of 3 cards this morning...each telling me how much he loved me and how I should stay positive. He was totally trying to soften my reaction cos he knows he married a glass-half-empty girl!!!

The last card (left on my windshield) basically said "you and i both know that there are no quick fixes, and things happen...i'm here for you, forever, whenever and however you need me to be"

I am still in awe.

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BTW-Zippy, what's the news? and Marina, any update on the embies?

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That's terrific news, Mo! 90 is very good! There's a lady somewhere in this forum who started at SIX!! And she carried full term! So, nothing's too small, at this point. The ONLY thing that matters is doubling every 48 hours (or about that).

I went to take a blood test this morning and will know around 1:00 pm California time. Just about 3 hours. I'll definitely post. I love everyone's positive thinking on this board, so I'm going to say that if it's a no-go today, we still have six more frosties to try! That's not a bad thing at all!

Yes, Marina... how many have gone to blast? Hopefully a surplus?

I'll post my betas when I hear them. Good luck to everyone and happy Friday!

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Well, just like I figured: HcG plummeted down from 9,000 to 600 today. *Sigh* Well, it's what I had guessed, so no worries. We have more chances awaiting us. My biggest problem is it takes my body soooo long to get back into regular cycles after a miscarriage. For example, after last December's miscarriage, I never bled until the following April... and that's only after they gave me a Provera subscription! Then I bled for 16 days straight! Ack! So, hopefully this time things will get back to normal quicker.

I'll keep checking back on here to make sure Mo is progressing nicely.... and getting more symptoms! So, all in all, I would have to say that "no symptoms aren't necessarily a good thing," huh?

Take care, all!

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Sorry Zippy.... Why dont you hace a dne so that you dont have to wait so long?

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Do you think that would help? I've never had one. I've read where some ladies get a D&C and STILL they don't have their normal period come back for months. Frustrating. Hm... I think I'll give it one full month and then just see what to do from there.

I wish everyone the best of luck this year!

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